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  2. WEBSITE-474

"Installing Jenkins in Docker" section refers to Blue Ocean image instead of the official jenkins/jenkins one

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      It is a follow-up to the discussion in IRC. Apparently Jenkins Docker installation guidelines recommend the BlueOcean container instead of the official Jenkins one. See https://jenkins.io/doc/book/installing/#downloading-and-running-jenkins-in-docker

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            oleg_nenashev Oleg Nenashev added a comment -

            It is fine to have both images in guidelines, but then we should start from jenkins/jenkins and then provide some pros/cons comparison

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            oleg_nenashev Oleg Nenashev added a comment - It is fine to have both images in guidelines, but then we should start from jenkins/jenkins and then provide some pros/cons comparison
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            jglick Jesse Glick added a comment -

            Having a dedicated image for Blue Ocean does not make sense for users. Might be useful for demos, but that is it. We should guide users to either

            • Run jenkins/jenkins as is and use the Setup Wizard to install recommend plugins.
            • Produce a derivative image with declarative plugin configuration somehow aligned with S.W. recommendations.
            • Run Evergreen.
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            jglick Jesse Glick added a comment - Having a dedicated image for Blue Ocean does not make sense for users. Might be useful for demos, but that is it. We should guide users to either Run jenkins/jenkins as is and use the Setup Wizard to install recommend plugins. Produce a derivative image with declarative plugin configuration somehow aligned with S.W. recommendations. Run Evergreen.
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            oleg_nenashev Oleg Nenashev added a comment -

            I would be in favor of a good BlueOcean image as a helpful bundle, but there is a serious UX issue in the current image: JENKINS-52069. jenkinci/blueocean is that plugins.txt is NOT compatible with the installation wizard. So it causes a really messy UX for thos who does not use Configuration-as-code. And there is no much sense to use the image with Configuration-as-code, because it can be easily defined in plugins.txt: https://github.com/oleg-nenashev/jenkins-blueocean-experimental/blob/java11/plugins.txt

            So I am in favor of deprecating the image if there is no plan to invest into improving it. And there is a dev list thread which suggests that there is no immediate plans for that: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/jenkinsci-dev/zNukeuLK4Og/KP3mfQ2ZFAAJ

             

             

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            oleg_nenashev Oleg Nenashev added a comment - I would be in favor of a good BlueOcean image as a helpful bundle, but there is a serious UX issue in the current image: JENKINS-52069 . jenkinci/blueocean is that plugins.txt is NOT compatible with the installation wizard. So it causes a really messy UX for thos who does not use Configuration-as-code. And there is no much sense to use the image with Configuration-as-code, because it can be easily defined in plugins.txt: https://github.com/oleg-nenashev/jenkins-blueocean-experimental/blob/java11/plugins.txt So I am in favor of deprecating the image if there is no plan to invest into improving it. And there is a dev list thread which suggests that there is no immediate plans for that:  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/jenkinsci-dev/zNukeuLK4Og/KP3mfQ2ZFAAJ    
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            alecharp Adrien Lecharpentier added a comment -
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            alecharp Adrien Lecharpentier added a comment - I filled https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/pull/2148  to track this.
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            zbynek Zbynek Konecny added a comment -

            Adrien Lecharpentier given the comments in the PR I assume this needs changes before it can be reviewed again (hence the status change in review->in progress).

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            zbynek Zbynek Konecny added a comment - Adrien Lecharpentier given the comments in the PR I assume this needs changes before it can be reviewed again (hence the status change in review->in progress).

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                alecharp Adrien Lecharpentier
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                oleg_nenashev Oleg Nenashev
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