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Plugin Manager should state that Jenkins will refuse to load due to the missing deps

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            scm_issue_link SCM/JIRA link daemon added a comment -

            Code changed in jenkins
            User: Daniel Beck
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            core/src/main/resources/hudson/PluginManager/table.properties
            http://jenkins-ci.org/commit/jenkins/d05752a03248035bc571732ed8c3cf6cf1e4dc05
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            [FIXED JENKINS-40666] - Correctly state that Jenkins will refuse to load plugins. (#2677)

            JENKINS-40666 - Correctly state that Jenkins will refuse to load plugins.

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            scm_issue_link SCM/JIRA link daemon added a comment - Code changed in jenkins User: Daniel Beck Path: core/src/main/resources/hudson/PluginManager/table.properties http://jenkins-ci.org/commit/jenkins/d05752a03248035bc571732ed8c3cf6cf1e4dc05 Log: [FIXED JENKINS-40666] - Correctly state that Jenkins will refuse to load plugins. (#2677) JENKINS-40666 - Correctly state that Jenkins will refuse to load plugins.
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            danielbeck Daniel Beck added a comment -

            Removed quote as it's a separate (INFRA) issue.

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            danielbeck Daniel Beck added a comment - Removed quote as it's a separate (INFRA) issue.
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            danielbeck Daniel Beck added a comment -

            Oleg Nenashev No point in filing an issue if you're not going to lts-candidate it

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            danielbeck Daniel Beck added a comment - Oleg Nenashev No point in filing an issue if you're not going to lts-candidate it
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            oleg_nenashev Oleg Nenashev added a comment -

            The fix has been integrated and release in Jenkins 2.38

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            oleg_nenashev Oleg Nenashev added a comment - The fix has been integrated and release in Jenkins 2.38
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            apgray Andrew Gray added a comment -

            This "fix" is causing a long list of current plugins to not load. Please revert this "fix" until plugin maintainers are able to keep up with this so called improvement. #nothappyjan

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            apgray Andrew Gray added a comment - This "fix" is causing a long list of current plugins to not load. Please revert this "fix" until plugin maintainers are able to keep up with this so called improvement. #nothappyjan
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            danielbeck Daniel Beck added a comment -

            Andrew Gray

            This "fix" is causing a long list of current plugins to not load. Please revert this "fix" until plugin maintainers are able to keep up with this so called improvement. #nothappyjan

            Whatever you're experiencing is unrelated to this documentation fix. Notably this change only replaces one "this will be broken" warning with a more correct one. If you relied on the previous behavior, that was a pretty terrible idea anyway (an unfortunate side effect of how our update site infra works that we will need to tackle some time, but not really a priority: we expect users to either update frequently or run LTS releases, in which case the situation referred to in the warning isn't even a problem).

            My crystal ball says you're upset about JENKINS-21486, which has been released half a year ago in Jenkins 2.16. It's extremely unlikely that this will be reverted (only improved), as it trades impossible to investigate errors at random times during runtime for clearly logged errors on startup. It's also (mostly) unrelated to anything maintainers could be doing, but rather is about invalid configurations, having plugins disabled that are dependencies of other plugins, or in incompatible versions, etc.

            Please file a new issue, describing in detail what you're doing, what versions of Jenkins you're running now and before, what plugins are installed in what versions, what happens, and why it's a problem. Reopening unrelated (or even related issues) saying "this is terrible" doesn't help.

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            danielbeck Daniel Beck added a comment - Andrew Gray This "fix" is causing a long list of current plugins to not load. Please revert this "fix" until plugin maintainers are able to keep up with this so called improvement. #nothappyjan Whatever you're experiencing is unrelated to this documentation fix . Notably this change only replaces one "this will be broken" warning with a more correct one. If you relied on the previous behavior, that was a pretty terrible idea anyway (an unfortunate side effect of how our update site infra works that we will need to tackle some time, but not really a priority: we expect users to either update frequently or run LTS releases, in which case the situation referred to in the warning isn't even a problem). My crystal ball says you're upset about JENKINS-21486 , which has been released half a year ago in Jenkins 2.16. It's extremely unlikely that this will be reverted (only improved), as it trades impossible to investigate errors at random times during runtime for clearly logged errors on startup. It's also (mostly) unrelated to anything maintainers could be doing, but rather is about invalid configurations, having plugins disabled that are dependencies of other plugins, or in incompatible versions, etc. Please file a new issue, describing in detail what you're doing, what versions of Jenkins you're running now and before, what plugins are installed in what versions, what happens, and why it's a problem . Reopening unrelated (or even related issues) saying "this is terrible" doesn't help.

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